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		<title>By: Christina Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://anagram-press.com/blog/2010/03/28/sustainable-shopping-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My non-MN friends think it's really funny, but we buy our eggs from the Mom-and-Pop video rental store.  They raise chickens in their backyard, where the chickens roam and eat the bugs.  Best eggs ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My non-MN friends think it&#8217;s really funny, but we buy our eggs from the Mom-and-Pop video rental store.  They raise chickens in their backyard, where the chickens roam and eat the bugs.  Best eggs ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Chandler</title>
		<link>http://anagram-press.com/blog/2010/03/28/sustainable-shopping-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Erika. Bottled water is somewhat of a touchy subject for us; we're staunch supporters of tap water. This isn't really the space to go into it in great detail, but basically I view bottled water as a huge scam, perpetuated by marketing that wants us to think our own tap water is unsafe to drink. Bottled water is not regulated by the EPA (as one might think); it's regulated by the FDA, and, at least a few years ago, it was only managed by one person, for part of his or her time each day. So that's not a lot of man-hours to devote to a gigantic industry. I have a lot more issues with that particular bit, but there's the tip of the iceberg.

The real kicker is that if you look closely at the sources listed on many brands of bottled water (I dunno about your particular brand), they disclose that the water comes from a *municipal water supply* (as opposed to some mythical mountain stream). Municipal supply = tap water. So basically many of these companies are bottling the tap water that we already pay for with our taxes, and then selling it back to us for hundreds of times the amount we already paid.

So between that, the fossil fuels for transport that you mentioned, and the BPA-leaking plastic (which is made from fossil fuels) containers it comes in, bottled water really burns me. The EPA doesn't regulate bottled water, but it sure as heck regulates tap water—so I'm putting my money on them.

To cut down on the chlorine in tap water, though, for now we have a Brita filter for our tap water. And it's on the list to make our own charcoal filter (you can re-use the charcoal by putting it in the oven to re-activate it) so we don't have to keep throwing the Brita ones away.

Sorry for the long-winded answer, but I hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Erika. Bottled water is somewhat of a touchy subject for us; we&#8217;re staunch supporters of tap water. This isn&#8217;t really the space to go into it in great detail, but basically I view bottled water as a huge scam, perpetuated by marketing that wants us to think our own tap water is unsafe to drink. Bottled water is not regulated by the EPA (as one might think); it&#8217;s regulated by the FDA, and, at least a few years ago, it was only managed by one person, for part of his or her time each day. So that&#8217;s not a lot of man-hours to devote to a gigantic industry. I have a lot more issues with that particular bit, but there&#8217;s the tip of the iceberg.</p>
<p>The real kicker is that if you look closely at the sources listed on many brands of bottled water (I dunno about your particular brand), they disclose that the water comes from a *municipal water supply* (as opposed to some mythical mountain stream). Municipal supply = tap water. So basically many of these companies are bottling the tap water that we already pay for with our taxes, and then selling it back to us for hundreds of times the amount we already paid.</p>
<p>So between that, the fossil fuels for transport that you mentioned, and the BPA-leaking plastic (which is made from fossil fuels) containers it comes in, bottled water really burns me. The EPA doesn&#8217;t regulate bottled water, but it sure as heck regulates tap water—so I&#8217;m putting my money on them.</p>
<p>To cut down on the chlorine in tap water, though, for now we have a Brita filter for our tap water. And it&#8217;s on the list to make our own charcoal filter (you can re-use the charcoal by putting it in the oven to re-activate it) so we don&#8217;t have to keep throwing the Brita ones away.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long-winded answer, but I hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://anagram-press.com/blog/2010/03/28/sustainable-shopping-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chandler, these posts have been great.  I have a strange question, but would you perhaps share your input on drinking water as well?  My guess is that you and the tailor have done some research there as well and it's something I am struggling with.  Right now I order h20 from a spring in Arkansas in glass bottles, but the fossil fuels to get it to me and the fact that it's not a local source is not good.  Thanks always for sharing -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chandler, these posts have been great.  I have a strange question, but would you perhaps share your input on drinking water as well?  My guess is that you and the tailor have done some research there as well and it&#8217;s something I am struggling with.  Right now I order h20 from a spring in Arkansas in glass bottles, but the fossil fuels to get it to me and the fact that it&#8217;s not a local source is not good.  Thanks always for sharing -</p>
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		<title>By: Hearthstone</title>
		<link>http://anagram-press.com/blog/2010/03/28/sustainable-shopping-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>Hearthstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's right, you live in Geoduck Central.  I had never heard of geoduck, until you shared Nicole's appellation for it with me.  Maybe we can try it?  Wonder how you cook it.

Yer Mum and I stopped eating farmed salmon, after I learned the filets we were selling came from Chile.  They would arrive in 20-pound, styro boxes, packed in dry ice, via overnight delivery, twice a week.  Chile today, gone tomorrow.  Sold where salmon run wild.  Or used to, anyway.  

Your points are well taken about how far foodstuffs have to fly, nowadays, and all the refrigeration required to sustain shelf life.  Seafood is an egregious example of it.  Seafood has become a global industry, and the modern technological wonders have put it out of people's minds that once upon a time, people went fishing for it.  At our fish market on the water, folks would ask me where the fantail shrimp came from.  Vietnam.  No, no, some would reply, I don't even want to think about what they swam in.  But that's more to the point about the ick-factor of fish pens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, you live in Geoduck Central.  I had never heard of geoduck, until you shared Nicole&#8217;s appellation for it with me.  Maybe we can try it?  Wonder how you cook it.</p>
<p>Yer Mum and I stopped eating farmed salmon, after I learned the filets we were selling came from Chile.  They would arrive in 20-pound, styro boxes, packed in dry ice, via overnight delivery, twice a week.  Chile today, gone tomorrow.  Sold where salmon run wild.  Or used to, anyway.  </p>
<p>Your points are well taken about how far foodstuffs have to fly, nowadays, and all the refrigeration required to sustain shelf life.  Seafood is an egregious example of it.  Seafood has become a global industry, and the modern technological wonders have put it out of people&#8217;s minds that once upon a time, people went fishing for it.  At our fish market on the water, folks would ask me where the fantail shrimp came from.  Vietnam.  No, no, some would reply, I don&#8217;t even want to think about what they swam in.  But that&#8217;s more to the point about the ick-factor of fish pens.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fishmonger! Your word, Dad! Ha. And yes, bottom-feeders are tasty—which is probably why people like catfish so much.

Great comment. We've got some issues about fishing rights here, too—especially for shellfish like the famed geoduck. Tribal land, the DNR, private interests, and hobby diggers are all butting heads about that one. I try to stay out of it by avoiding geoduck altogether (though it is tasty, I must say). But I know these issues are everywhere—I'd turn to farmed seafood but aquaculture is a whole 'nuther kettle of...uh...fish. 

I figure that as consumers we're voting with our dollar; hopefully with enough awareness to go around the demand might eventually shift enough to change the supply to something more sustainable. Oregon is working on bar codes to go with every fish for sale there, so the customer can track where it came from:

http://bit.ly/knMGy

I'm interested to see how it goes; I'd love to see something like that here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fishmonger! Your word, Dad! Ha. And yes, bottom-feeders are tasty—which is probably why people like catfish so much.</p>
<p>Great comment. We&#8217;ve got some issues about fishing rights here, too—especially for shellfish like the famed geoduck. Tribal land, the DNR, private interests, and hobby diggers are all butting heads about that one. I try to stay out of it by avoiding geoduck altogether (though it is tasty, I must say). But I know these issues are everywhere—I&#8217;d turn to farmed seafood but aquaculture is a whole &#8216;nuther kettle of&#8230;uh&#8230;fish. </p>
<p>I figure that as consumers we&#8217;re voting with our dollar; hopefully with enough awareness to go around the demand might eventually shift enough to change the supply to something more sustainable. Oregon is working on bar codes to go with every fish for sale there, so the customer can track where it came from:</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/knMGy" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/knMGy</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested to see how it goes; I&#8217;d love to see something like that here.</p>
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		<title>By: Hearthstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hearthstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fishmonger?  Hey, I resemble that remark!  Actually, out here it's getting harder to get a good piece of fish at all, whether sustainably or otherwise.  In a continuing effort to rebuild ground fish stocks, our fishermen are allowed by Congress fewer and fewer days at sea.  Now there are both fewer fish and fewer fishermen--it was always a hard living, anyway.  Now people are underwater in their boat assets, and can't go fishing enough to pay the loans.  The Portland Fish Exchange is hurting, in part because the lobster lobby won't let the draggers land their by-catch of big, honking lobsters that get caught in the nets.  Maine law continues to require them to be left in the ocean, but Mass says it's okay to sell them in Gloucester.  (You'll find monster lobsters in New Hampshire, too, direct from the Isles of Shoals.)  Guess where the fishing boats go, more and more.

Indeed, it's your lobsta that's become a robust, healthy, sustainable fishery.  For one thing, like your crabs, dem bugs eat dead things, a place for everything, and everything in its place.  For another, dem bugs flock to dead things in traps like ants to a sugar cube.  It's only the ones not smart enough to leave the trap that get harvested at the surface, and the little ones thrown back are measured with calipers.  But, I think it's also a human factor that keeps lobstering sustainable:  the territoriality is ancient and tribal.  Every corner of water is marked, and one can get shot out there.  Maritime law enforcement is stretched so thin, they spend a lot of their time just helping everyone get along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fishmonger?  Hey, I resemble that remark!  Actually, out here it&#8217;s getting harder to get a good piece of fish at all, whether sustainably or otherwise.  In a continuing effort to rebuild ground fish stocks, our fishermen are allowed by Congress fewer and fewer days at sea.  Now there are both fewer fish and fewer fishermen&#8211;it was always a hard living, anyway.  Now people are underwater in their boat assets, and can&#8217;t go fishing enough to pay the loans.  The Portland Fish Exchange is hurting, in part because the lobster lobby won&#8217;t let the draggers land their by-catch of big, honking lobsters that get caught in the nets.  Maine law continues to require them to be left in the ocean, but Mass says it&#8217;s okay to sell them in Gloucester.  (You&#8217;ll find monster lobsters in New Hampshire, too, direct from the Isles of Shoals.)  Guess where the fishing boats go, more and more.</p>
<p>Indeed, it&#8217;s your lobsta that&#8217;s become a robust, healthy, sustainable fishery.  For one thing, like your crabs, dem bugs eat dead things, a place for everything, and everything in its place.  For another, dem bugs flock to dead things in traps like ants to a sugar cube.  It&#8217;s only the ones not smart enough to leave the trap that get harvested at the surface, and the little ones thrown back are measured with calipers.  But, I think it&#8217;s also a human factor that keeps lobstering sustainable:  the territoriality is ancient and tribal.  Every corner of water is marked, and one can get shot out there.  Maritime law enforcement is stretched so thin, they spend a lot of their time just helping everyone get along.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekKnitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekKnitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's tough sometimes to explain to people that there's a difference between being weird and living mindfully!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough sometimes to explain to people that there&#8217;s a difference between being weird and living mindfully!</p>
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